We are thrilled to share our special guest and new favorite clinical nutritionist with you today.
Heather Dane is our food as medicine, functional nutrition twin. We just love her knowledge, wisdom, brilliance, and the way she explains things that enable people to follow easy plans that yield powerful results.
She combines ancient wisdom from her Native American lineage with holistic health and nutrition training to offer cutting-edge prescriptive remedies. She has coauthored two books with Louise Hay, has her own show on Hay House Radio, and has excellent info to share with you on The Randy and Christa Show today.
Here’s what we talk about:
This is a show that everyone can benefit from regardless of having issues with their kidney or bladder or adrenals. If nothing else, watch this show to learn about copper levels in your body and to start asking your doctor to check for them annually.
There’s so much goodness in here that we got the show transcribed for you below!
Transcript
Randy:
You're watching The Randy and Christa Show. I'm Randy Alvarez.
Christa:
I'm Christa Orecchio, and this is news that makes you healthier. Our guest today is nutritionist, Heather Dane. We love her. We're going to get you healthier today by talking about how to improve your kidneys and your urinary tract.
I want you to learn a little bit about Heather. Before we start, I want to read her bio. She is a health coach and 21st-century medicine woman, which I love. Heather combines ancient wisdom from her Native American lineage with holistic health and nutrition training to offer cutting edge prescriptive remedies. She has coauthored two books with Louise Hay, Loving Yourself to Great Health, and her latest book, The Bone Broth Secret, which I love and everyone should pick up. Heather is a regular contributor to mindbodygreen, Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation. She also is a regular contributor to healyourlife.com, and she has a Hay House Radio show, which I was just a guest on. You can learn all about her at heatherdane.com.
Randy:
All right. Well, Heather. Well, welcome to the program.
Heather:
Thank you. I'm glad to be here.
Randy:
Now, Christa was so excited about getting you on the show so thanks for coming out. Now, you work by telephone, but you live in San Diego?
Heather:
I live in San Diego, the best place ever.
Randy:
You help people all over the world?
Heather:
All over the world, yeah. In fact, when I first got started in practice, people from Europe were calling me a lot. I had more Europeans than I had from the US.
Randy:
Good. Good for you.
Christa:
That's awesome.
Randy:
You have two bestsellers.
Heather:
Yes.
Randy:
These books. Today we're talking about what? Kidneys and bladder health.
Christa:
Yeah, we're going to talk about kidney and urinary issues. Heather, we want you to give us what is your broad strokes? What's your approach to these issues? A lot of people have them even if they don't think they have them. They're marching towards them.
Heather:
Yes, absolutely. What I usually do is I look at several categories. One is lifestyle. Now, that might seem a little weird to look first at lifestyle. Usually, when there are kidney and bladder issues, it's because they're stressed. There's been either a major stressor that has just happened or there's been chronic low-level or high-level stress that's happening in people's lives. When we get stressed, all of the things happen that can set the stage for a kidney or a bladder issue.
The number two thing I look at is symptoms of low immunity. Sometimes these can be sneaky. We know things like recurrent colds, or a virus that just keeps coming back, or sinus infections. Maybe you're on antibiotics all the time. What we don't always know about is that depression and anxiety, mood issues can often signal low immunity and inflammation in the body. Gut issues, digestive issues can signal low immunity. I look for things like that to give me a sense of whether we need to do something with an inflammation or whether we need to shore up the immune system.
The third thing that I look at is organ health. Now, we know that kidney and bladder are two very important organs, but we have to go upstream. We start looking at things like how are your adrenals doing. The adrenals sit on top of the kidneys, and they're these two tiny, little, walnut-shaped organs. They're responsible for our hormones and for our energy.
Randy:
How are you testing for this health, by the way?
Heather:
I actually will have people take tests. Now, I look first. When somebody first comes to me, I look at their symptoms. I start going through and asking a lot of questions. I have them fill out a questionnaire. Then, as I found out where things are going, there are a few tests I have them do. I have them do a metabolic test, so the organic acid test is one of them. I send them to other people either their doctor or I have people that I work within my network that can help people get this testing.
The other test I have people get is a mineral test. I want to look at their blood levels, their serum levels, and their hair tissue levels. I want to get a sense of where their minerals are. Then the third thing that I do is I like to look at their genetics. Today, we know with epigenetics that sometimes things happen that are related to our genes. We can actually use things like nutrition, lifestyle, and supplements to turn those gene switches off. I have them get a genetic test so that I can get … When you have mysteries, genes tell us where to go. I really like to have that test if somebody comes to me with a mysterious condition.
Christa:
Heather, what are some little known nutritional considerations that we really need to look at when it comes to the kidneys, the urinary tract, the adrenals? I feel like there's an oxalate issue that's not being addressed.
Heather:
You got it, Christa. Oxalate is a compound that comes in what we would consider very healthy foods, things like spinach, almonds, celery, kale, cruciferous vegetables, even chocolate which so many of us love today. The thing is today we're talking about kidneys and bladders, so I want you to think about things that irritate you. Calcium oxalates irritate the body.
Randy:
Really?
Christa:
They cause inflammation.
Heather:
They basically create a sharp, hard compound that lodges itself in any tissues. It really goes after tissues that are inflamed. If you have any inflammation anywhere, the oxalates run right there, and they're giving you a big punch. It can lodge in your brain. It can lodge in your kidneys and bladder. Now, you've got stones. You've got kidney stones. You've got gallstones. You've got stones-
Randy:
Avoid foods with oxalates.
Heather:
Well, it's hard to do.
Randy:
Taper off.
Heather:
See, that's what's you're saying. It's smart, Randy. One way to do it is actually to go on a low oxalate diet. It's not a very exciting diet, but it can be short-term while you're looking at the root cause. We're going to talk a little bit about the root cause of oxalates.
Randy:
Bloating, things like that could be because you have this …
Heather:
Bloating, irritation, frustration, depression.
Christa:
Anxiety.
Heather:
Anxiety, yeah. All of these things have to do with … Anything that's irritating you so think of your organs being irritated or you're emotionally irritated. I would start looking at the foods that irritate like oxalates.
The other one is thiols. Nobody's ever heard of thiols. Thiol is another compound in very healthy foods so things like asparagus, or millet, or quinoa. Foods that we all think are really exciting have thiols in it. Now, with thiol, thiol is another irritation like-
Randy:
Now, you mentioned asparagus. What other green vegetables would have it besides quinoa and those kind of things?
Heather:
Cruciferous vegetables, the ones that we're told to eat all the time.
Randy:
Like broccoli?
Heather:
Broccoli.
Randy:
Really?
Heather:
Your kale, your spinach. All the foods were putting in smoothies all the time have thiols in them.
Christa:
Actually, these foods that we're told to eat, these cruciferous vegetables really boost and build our mitochondria. They can help with a laundry list of neurological issues, and so we really need to heal the root cause, understand where we are now, heal from that with oxalates and then these foods that aren't healthy for us now become healthy once again.
Randy:
Good. Now, you were saying. I'm sorry.
Heather:
We go back to this idea of irritation. Oxalates and thiols can be irritating even for people in the nutrition industry because they are threshold compounds. What that means is that I can eat a certain number of oxalates foods or thiol foods today and have no symptoms. If I go over my unique and special threshold, if this condition is alive for me, then what happens is I start to have symptoms. When somebody says, “What foods are you having trouble with?” It changes almost every day because of the threshold. It's irritating. Again, if you have irritation, you probably got kidney and bladder issues or may have them in the future. That's one thing to think about.
Now, thiols are an underlying issue to our sulfur metabolism. I learned this through doing my nutrigenomics. I'm looking at people's genetics, and I'm finding out that people with the CBS gene mutation that's like cystathionine beta-synthase, which basically says you metabolize sulfur too quickly or possibly too slowly. Usually, it's too quickly. If you have that switch turned on, you now have a problem with thiols. Where this creates an issue for the kidneys and bladder is it can create trapped gas in the system. Trapped gas in the system means you're not digesting. Some people will have pain. Some people won't have pain. If somebody comes to me with incontinence and they say, “I have it sometimes. I don't have it other times.” Maybe they've gone to their doctor, and they've been prescribed medications-
Randy:
It's what they're eating.
Heather:
It's often times, underneath the incontinence, is a bloating or a trapped gas issue. That's from the thiols. I'll usually take people off of all vegetables that have high thiols, and they can eat things like avocados, animal proteins, fish, meat, poultry. Not eggs. Eggs are high in thiols, but they can eat a lot of more of these strengthening animal foods. That gets their body back in shape. Meanwhile, we work on the root causes and then that's gone. I've had a lot of people heal from incontinence issues with that.
Randy:
Where they could find out more about this? One of your books? Which book is it that lays this out?
Heather:
It's actually mostly on my website. At heatherdane.com, people can go, and they can find articles as well as recipes because while somebody is on that low thiol diet, they want to be able to have fun eating, even desserts. We want to have fun.
Randy:
Christa, how come we haven't we talked about this before?
Christa:
We're always bringing up new things.
Randy:
I always feel like Christa who's a brilliant nutritionist, but she doesn't fill me in on some of these things.
Heather:
There's too much for one person-
Randy:
Am I too far gone, Christa?
Christa:
That's why I'm choosing the guests to bring this new information.
Randy:
This is a big intervention for me.
Heather:
It's too much. It's too much. Some people are great at the mitochondria level. Some people are great at the genetic level. There's so much of nutrition. When you pair up, now, you've got people putting their heads together. That's why I think functional medicine is bringing us into a more team-based approach which is fabulous.
Randy:
I have to mention this, by the way. I was telling Christa. My collar hardly fits. Two weeks ago, I'm thinking, “I'm going to make more salads at home.” To flavor it up, I'm putting almonds, probably more, at least a handful, two sets a day of raw almonds and I'm having sauteed spinach every single day.
Christa:
Eggs, huh?
Randy:
Eggs, two hard boiled eggs, plus some eggs in the morning. I blow up, like bloated.
Heather:
There you go. You went over your threshold.
Randy:
Yes, I'm over my threshold.
Heather:
You can swell in other areas besides just your digestive system.
Randy:
It's been my abdomen. It's just bloated out.
Heather:
People think they've gained weight because your body looks like it's gained weight and it can actually add weight to the scale. This freaks people out. It's actually just the fact that we're filled up with all kinds of swelling from the thiols.
Randy:
I'm going to get off the thiols and the oxalates.
Heather:
Move on to the salicylates.
Randy:
Enough about me. I'm sorry about that. I get hate mail from some of Christa's friends.
Christa:
No, it's not hate mail.
Randy:
If I ever talk about myself.
Heather:
I thought it was a good example.
Randy:
Good. All right.
Christa:
We talked about,
Randy:
We'll continue.
Christa:
… oxalates. We talked about thiols, and we're going to link back to your blog. You guys can read more about that. We're going to talk about salicylates. Before we get there, the CBS genetic mutation that you talked about, Heather, can people ask their doctor to run this or should they use 23andMe? Randy will be our first guinea pig. Where do we start with him?
Heather:
Well, you got it, Christa. We're going to do … I ask people to do 23andMe. It's 23andme.com. You do it in the mail. It's a saliva test, and then you get your results back. That is going to have to be … You either hand that to your nutritionist or your hand it to your-
Randy:
Christa. I'll give it to Christa.
Heather:
To Christa or you hand it to a functional medicine expert or an epigenetics expert. They can now run you a report that will tell you if you have CBS. If you're in trouble, go get the probiotic L. Casie, C-A-S-I-E.
Randy:
I'll take the test, and we'll find out.
Heather:
Take that probiotic. It will eat up that gas and bring the swelling done.
Christa:
Let's do it soon. I have a 23ndMe, too, I'm going to run on myself. We'll compare notes. Heather, the balance of minerals in our human body, it literally makes or breaks every aspect of who we are. What do you do if someone has imbalanced calcium, magnesium? Copper is a big one. How do we restore mineral balance so that we don't have to worry so much about all these things?
Randy:
How do you test it and how do you restore it?
Heather:
The first thing I'll do is when I get the genetic test, and I hear that they've got the symptoms, I say, “They've got mutations in the CBS enzyme, and I want to help them with it.” I don't want them to be on a restrictive diet for the rest of their life. I get a lot of people that call me, and they say, “I'm on two foods. That's all I can tolerate.” That's what starts to happen when we start removing foods to deal with food intolerances. Pretty soon we're down to almost nothing. What we can do is … These are signs. If you've got thiol issues, if you've got issues with oxalate, salicylates, what's happening is your minerals are not balanced. We-
Christa:
Let me have you define salicylates real quick before we-
Heather:
They're another threshold compound in the body that can be found in foods. Tea. If you're a tea drinker, you may be getting irritated because there are salicylates in tea. If you have the UTI and you take cranberry juice, cranberries are high in salicylates. That could be aggravating the issue. It's another area where you'd want to look up high salicylate foods and low salicylate foods and remove them and give your body some relief for a little while, just not forever.
Randy:
Have you seen reversals? That means you take the test, you do this, people felt better?
Heather:
Yes, yes. I had Cathy, one of my clients came to me. She had all of the symptoms of CBS. We got the test. Sure enough, she had three-
Randy:
Symptoms which were?
Heather:
Symptoms which were trapped gas, bloating, constantly distended. She felt like she was overweight, but sometimes she'd wake up in the morning and have a perfectly flat stomach. Then by the end of the day, her stomach would be pretty bloated. She also had irritation, brain fog and she'd have days where she just couldn't get out. She was exhausted, couldn't get out of bed. We put her on the low thiol diet. I had her get an HTMA, which is a hair tissue mineral analysis. We found out where her minerals where. Found out she was high in copper and we're going to talk about that. We put her on a diet that would reverse the high copper. We got the CBS enzymes fixed by getting all the thiol foods out of her diet. Fixed that copper problem. Within six months, she was eating all the thiol foods with no symptoms.
Christa:
Basically, you've used epigenetics to turn off the gene for CBS?
Heather:
To turn the gene off. Yeah, exactly.
Christa:
It's brilliant. It really is. This is 21st-century healing.
Randy:
You've seen this in your clinical practice as well?
Christa:
Yeah. Well, my clinical practice is epigenetics for fetal programming, and also for gut health and digestive health to turn off autoimmune, help people with MTHFR genetic mutation. This is new to me. The CBS is new. It's fascinating. Copper. I think this is important. We try to bring new information to our viewers who are like, “That might be it.” No one is talking about-
Randy:
Too much copper, is that what we're talking about? Not enough copper?
Christa:
Too much copper involved.
Heather:
Well, all. The whole spectrum.
Christa:
Let's talk. Just run with it. Copper, all day long.
Heather:
Copper. The thing about copper. I want you to think about minerals this way. Magnesium is the gateway mineral. Think of magnesium as parents in the house, and they've got ten rebellious teenagers. When magnesium leaves the house, which happens when we get under stress, the first thing to go is magnesium. Think the parents have left the house. There's ten rebellious teenagers at home, and they're going rogue. Copper goes rogue very quickly. If you have a vegetarian or vegan diet, you're putting the kind of copper in your body that actually doesn't have a protection already in it. Too much of that can create a copper overload. Copper can either be too high, too low, or you have plenty, but your body is not using it properly. When that part is happening, you've got plenty, but your body is not using it, it's called free copper, and it starts acting like a heavy metal in the body. You start having heavy metal related symptoms.
Randy:
Like?
Heather:
You could have brain fog. You could have pain in your body, arthritis. You could have digestive issues.
Christa:
Candida.
Heather:
You could have candida.
Christa:
Hair loss.
Heather:
Hair loss, exactly. Thyroid issues.
Randy:
Identify it. How do you make it lower then? Just by-
Heather:
I always have people get tested. I really like a hair tissue mineral test, which is an HTMA.
Christa:
A test for everything.
Heather:
Yes. I always do because you can't fool with copper. I don't like to fool with the worst of the rebellious teenagers and copper is one of the worst. What keeps copper in check is its twin rebellious teenager zinc. You don't want to mess with zinc because it's going to affect copper. You don't want to mess with copper because it will affect zinc. I like to have people get tested, so we know what we're doing.
With copper, when you find out what's going on … Is it bio-unavailable? Is it too high, too low? I like to have a blood test to back it up. There's a professional named Morley Robbins at gotmag.org. He does the testing, and he and I have worked together on many cases. We have great experience working with people. We send people each other all the time. We do cases together on the phone with our clients sometimes. We've seen so many benefits from people getting their copper back in order again.
Randy:
Back meaning lowered?
Heather:
Yes.
Christa:
Where their adrenals can finally heal and they get their life back. They're not in pain of bladder- [crosstalk 00:16:44]
Randy:
[crosstalk 00:16:44] Tell me about the copper tipped IUD, things like that.
Heather:
For something like an IUD, now, you've got a source of copper in your body. Copper water pipes are the same thing. A copper IUD is now in your body and in your tissues and that copper can leach into the body. If you were low in copper for some reason, that might not be too much of a problem. If you start to have a copper imbalance, it's going to create a lot of problems.
Christa:
Will it correct on its own when you remove the IUD or do you suggest some sort of chelation?
Heather:
I suggest checking to see where your copper is. If it's bio-unavailable, high or low and dealing with that issue because anything else you do … You don't want to assume that it's in a certain place because once you start messing with it … When you mess with zinc … You mess with copper. You're now messing with its twin sister zinc. What starts to happen is now digestion goes. You have anxiety. You've got other issues happening with your tissues. I don't want to have anybody messing with that without us being sure where they're going.
Christa:
Don't guess at it, test it is a good mantra.
Heather:
Yes, exactly.
Christa:
We completely bond on this, right? I have gone through my own health challenges. Not until I resolved the underlying emotion or belief system does it go away. I've had countless clients that … A lot of the physical stuff we're doing isn't making a difference until you get to the lifestyle and the emotions that could potentially cause things like kidney and bladder issues, and urinary issues, and adrenal fatigue. Tell us what's your approach.
Heather:
Christa, you're right about that.
Randy:
What was her question, by the way? Help me understand.
Heather:
What was Christa's question?
Randy:
The emotional component of this.
Heather:
Emotions matter. Lifestyle matters. Actually, the World Health Organization came out saying, “We used to have disease and illness from infection, and now we have disease and illness from lifestyle.” Lifestyle includes your emotions. We have evidence in science right now saying that if we have certain … Emotions are passed through the DNA, and so they're passed through our genes. Sometimes when we heal the emotional issue, we're actually healing the physical issue as well.
I do a lot of work with Dr. Mona Lisa Schulz. She's an MD, and she's a Ph.D. in behavioral science. She's scientifically mapped emotional centers that go with each organ and system in the body. We had a lot of discussion about urinary and kidney. Your urinary tract and your kidney are in your second and third emotional centers. I would ask people what's going on with your relationship? Do you have any issues with love and money, and you struggle with your spouse, your boyfriend, your girlfriend, whatever it is? I also like to ask …
Randy:
Christa is laughing. Why is this so funny?
Christa:
I was just wondering how you're processing this.
Randy:
I'm only processing although I don't have a relationship right now. I can't even get a date, and you're talking about this. This is affecting my emotions.
Heather:
It can. Even if you don't have somebody in your life and you want someone in your life.
Randy:
You've identified that they've got emotional problems.
Heather:
Yes.
Randy:
Now, you outsource them to a professional to help them?
Heather:
Well, here's the thing. There's a lot that I can do with my clients. I used to have an adrenaline lifestyle.
Randy:
Like a type A kind of thing.
Heather:
I worked 12-hour a day. I was a corporate executive. I thought that the world rested on my shoulders. If anybody told me to do less, I would get really angry. I was invested in my hamster wheel. There was no white space on my calendar, and there was no time for self-care. That's an adrenaline lifestyle. That means stress.
Randy:
I can relate to that.
Heather:
What goes with stress? First, magnesium and your B vitamins. Everything that makes you well and everything that makes you feel happy, gone.
Christa:
The adrenals, then the immune system, whatever order is your specific-
Heather:
Everything goes.
Christa:
Right. With too much stress.
Heather:
We know this. We know what the cascade is, but now we've got science telling us with epigenetics that this is actually true from a DNA perspective. That's always good for us.
Christa:
Which is beautiful, the blend of science and spirituality. I know you said, “Unfulfilled desires of the soul.” How does that play a role in health? When I work with clients with urinary and bladder issues to Heather's point, I would work with something called the healing codes, which helps identify underlying beliefs. She's talking about not feeling safe in your relationship. Maybe you're not trusting that person, but you can't say it, so your body is going to tell you what's going on until you face it. That's really what we're talking about, and it's inextricable. What is this? When you talk about unfulfilled desires of the soul, what does that mean?
Heather:
Well, part of my own healing from my adrenaline lifestyle and going from my corporate lifestyle to becoming a health coach, I actually went back to my Native American roots. I'm an Iroquois Oneida Indian. I actually went back and studied Native American medicine, which is not that far off from Chinese medicine actually. One of the big issues in Native American medicine is unfulfilled desires of the soul.
Now, why I know that this works is … Before I realized that, I started working as a business coach. I left corporate, and I thought the most legitimate thing I could do even though I studied nutrition in college and my passion is in natural health, I actually went into business coaching. I had every client write a vision for what they wanted to do with their life. The vision was if you had no family, no obligations, all the money in the world and no responsibilities, what would you do? When they wrote that vision, and we started moving them towards that vision, 100% of my clients got healthier. Total side effect.
Randy:
Interesting.
Heather:
I started health coaching from there. I said, “I've got to this. Look, I didn't even do anything with their nutrition, and they all got healthier.” I started doing health coaching, and that's when I started adding more nutrigenomics, and epigenetics, and things like that to my practice. I've watched everybody get healthy as well. Knowing what it is you love to do, your body has illness and symptoms because that's how it speaks to you. You cannot get away with not doing something you really want to do. We all came here with a purpose and passion.
Randy:
Good. This is very nice. In the green room, Christa, one of the things you said … You have a clinical practice, huge following from people that know you; they watch the show. You said you were turning back to your roots of mind, body, and soul, right?
Christa:
Yeah.
Randy:
We live in a toxic world. You got all these toxic burden, adrenal problems, eating gluten, all the things were oxalates, everything you're talking about. There's that emotional component, that mind, body component.
Christa:
If you don't address that, you're going to spend thousands of dollars, and you're going to lose a lot of quality of life stuck in this almost OCD-like hamster wheel of trying to get to the root of it.
Randy:
Is that the most difficult part? You can eliminate the bad foods, maybe take some of the supplements but isn't that the toughest part? Getting over your childhood, getting over the relationships, detaching from your type A life. Is that the most difficult?
Heather:
It's acknowledging them and working on them that starts the healing because our body wants us to know what we need to do to live a better life. If we were to put our hands on a part of our body where we have a symptom and say, “What do you want me to know?” I laughed when somebody told me to do that. I was sitting in my office in my corporate job and my suit. Somebody said, “How do you feel?” I'm like, “I feel pain. That's all.” “What do you mean?” Eventually, I started listening to the symptom and listening to what the meaning was for me. That's when I understood what was going on. We can learn so much without getting any test at all if we just start listening to our heart and soul and listening to our body.
Randy:
Good.
Christa:
Amen.
Randy:
We almost out of time. Thank you for… Now, you've got both books. How do we get in touch with your books? You have The Bone Broth Secret.
Christa:
The Bone Broth Secret.
Randy:
And?
Heather:
Loving Yourself to Great Health. You can get both books on Amazon, Barnes & Noble and most bookstores.
Randy:
Christa, I know you have a list of questions. We have time for a few more.
Christa:
We love to leave our viewers with action items so that they're really getting healthier as a result of watching each show. What are your final words, some lifestyle changes everyone can make that will support their own healing if they're dealing with anything that we've spoken about today?
Randy:
Yeah, good question.
Heather:
I'm going to offer a few tips. One would be start adding minerals back into your diet. The easiest way to do this without a test, the easiest and safest is just to put a fourth of a teaspoon of sea salt or Himalayan salt into a full cup of water, eight ounces. You can add some lemon juice about six ounces. That makes a great adrenal cocktail. It's fabulous. If you don't want to do that, you can take a supplement called Anderson's Sea M.D., S-E-A M.D., or you can take a concentrate which is another type of mineral supplement. Add a little bit to your water. Now, you're going to find you've got more energy-
Randy:
First thing in the morning, empty stomach?
Heather:
You can do it first thing in the morning. You can do it throughout the day. Just add it to your water bottles throughout the day. Great tip. I will guarantee you'll feel better. Every one of my clients calls me two weeks later.
Randy:
All right. All right.
Heather:
The next one that I would say is to really look at those … Make a vision. Figure out what your unfulfilled desires are. You don't have to know how you're going to fix them. You don't have to say, “Gee, if I know this, then it's not going to look good to me.” You're body will tell you anyway. You might as well get it down on paper, figure out what it is.
Then the third thing is if there's anyway to reduce stress, to look at your calendar and give yourself some time for self-care. This isn't popular with people who are busy, but this is one of the best things because even five extra minutes, even 10 extra minutes a day where you are just thinking, meditating, thinking about yourself, taking care of yourself, maybe making a meal in the kitchen, something healthy and whole in the kitchen can make a huge difference.
Christa:
With the intention of nurturing yourself.
Heather:
Yes.
Randy:
Now, with magnesium you mentioned, I want to ask you … There's glycinate. There's chelate. There's another one. What's the best one at night?
Heather:
There's a variety, and I would recommend that if you're just trying this out on your own, magnesium is a pretty safe supplement to take. If you want to be safe, go for five milligrams per pound of body weight. That's about 600 milligrams for a 120-pound woman. What you can do is you just look at… There's Taurate, which is a great one. Malate is a great one. I would skip citrate, which is the one that heart doctors always tell you to take. Citrate wrecks a protein called ceruloplasmin, which helps us deliver copper safely through the body. I wouldn't want anybody to deplete that. I would skip that one. I would look at L-Threonate, great for the brain. If you've got any brain fog, L-Threonate is fabulous. It's great before bed, and it's great if you've got pain. Glycinate is wonderful. If you have digestive issues or mood issues and you find glycinate makes things worse, put it aside.
Randy:
All right. Well, thank you for coming on the show. Great stuff.
Heather:
Thank you, Randy.
Randy:
We're going to be back to talk about The Bone Broth Secret and angry vegans. That's on our next show. We talked about that. All right. Christa?
Christa:
Thanks for being here, Heather. We could talk all day. We can't wait to have you back.
Heather:
Thank you, Christa.
Randy:
You've been watching The Randy and Christa Show. I'm Randy Alvarez. We have Christa Orecchio. For now, we wish you good health.
